 Discussions Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By TheVikingLord Comments: 393, member since Thu May 08, 2008On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:07 PM
Edited by TheVikingLord (81563) on 2008-11-19 14:11:07
Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden next month to tackle the escalating problem of piracy in a mission expected to last 12 months.
The naval fleet, under UK command, would "disrupt and to tackle the scourge of piracy", foreign secretary David Miliband said today on a visit to Beirut. Piracy threatens trade and prosperity, he added.
EU military planners this week drew up a detailed mandate, including rules of engagement for the use of force, for the mission at a meeting at Northwood, Britain's joint operations centre in north-west London. Plans for the EU fleet, led by HMS Northumberland and known as Operation Atalanta, are due to formally agreed early next month, European defence officials said today.
The EU fleet, originally proposed to escort boats carrying food aid to Somalia, should include ships from ten countries.
Nato military chiefs, meeting in Brussels today, indicated that a coordinated worldwide response was required to deal with piracy amid a plethora of proposals about how to deal with the problem.
Russia today came up with its own proposal - land operations against the bases of Somali pirates.
Dmitry Rogozin, Russia's ambassador to Nato, said the view of Russian experts was that naval action alone, even involving a large fleet of a powerful nation, would not be enough to defeat the pirates, given Somalia's geo-strategic position.
"So it is up to Nato, the EU and other major stakeholders to conduct not a sea operation, but in fact a land coastal operation to eradicate the bases of pirates on the ground," he said. "Because we all know... they have their bases on the ground and of course those actions should be coordinated with Russia," Rogozin said, without making clear whether he envisaged Russian involvement in any operation.
Allied chiefs of staff, meeting in Nato's military committee which devoted most of its time to the conflict in Pakistan, said piracy must be tackled as a long-term problem involving other international, organisations, including the UN, a Nato military spokesman told the Guardian.
Most European countries take the view that piracy is intrinsically linked to the economic and political crisis in Somalia, a failed state. They do not, however, believe that al-Qaida is involved in any of the piracy incidents.
Nato has four ships on patrol in the waters off Somalia, with two protecting UN food aid convoys. That mission, Nato's first against pirates, ends next month when the EU operation, called Atalanta, starts.
"The EU presence will be bigger and more designed for the mission," James Appathurai, the chief Nato spokesman, was reported as saying today.
www.guardian.co.uk . . .
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en>fr fr>en By NOZZLE Comments: 5864, member since Mon Mar 07, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:14 PM
Edited by NOZZLE (76406) on 2008-11-19 14:16:39
Other than Britain, who else will be sending ships, will they be fighting under caveats like in Afghanistan and when they start shooting buck toothed niggers will their be political protests and reprocussions back home? |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 8)
en>fr fr>en By Atlantic  Comments: 32236, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:15 PM
Ok, Brits, remember: Don't surrender at first inflatable boat's sight.  |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By CroixDeLorraine Comments: 3438, member since Sat Nov 26, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:17 PM
They will transmit them a letter from the prime minister explaining how piracy is not really a good practice even they are poor, a letter explaining how the kingdom is favorable to Islam (with Ahmadinejad recommandation) and a dedicated Koran from the Prince Charles, some goats offered by the Queen and eventually a subpoena for the pirates who have seized the oil tanker.
Moreover cross of Saint Georges will be removed from the white flag.
What a terrific threat!
Nelson must be impressed. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By Chirac_estun_ver Comments: 13260, member since Sun Mar 30, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:22 PM
Good. Clean out the rat's nest. They'll do a good job if the politicians don't get all soft and girlie about things.
Russia today came up with its own proposal - land operations against the bases of Somali pirates. Now that can be really nasty if the Russians are leading the land attack. Russia won't listen to any Leftist crying, not that they would utter a cross word against Russia. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By mahalo Comments: 14926, member since Sat Nov 15, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 02:40 PM
Will the Euros actually use bullets??? |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By SSaxonsucks  Comments: 5389, member since Thu Dec 15, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:00 PM
since french army captured and killed somalians pirate of the Ponan" few months ago... the pirates dont attack french ships anymore.. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By letarsier59  Comments: 8338, member since Thu Jan 20, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:14 PM
Chirac_estun_ver wrote:
Good. Clean out the rat's nest. They'll do a good job if the politicians don't get all soft and girlie about things.
[q]Russia today came up with its own proposal - land operations against the bases of Somali pirates. Now that can be really nasty if the Russians are leading the land attack. Russia won't listen to any Leftist crying, not that they would utter a cross word against Russia.
And of course, they will not be tempted to "persuade" local authorities to allow them, once the operations finished, to have their own naval base like the one they had in Ethiopia.
That is the problem with Russians : you always know when they come and never when they leave. On such a strategic place, caution is required. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By RockoftheMarne Comments: 17299, member since Fri Mar 21, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:43 PM
russia can't even successfully project force in chechnya, let alone somalia. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By CroixDeLorraine Comments: 3438, member since Sat Nov 26, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:47 PM
By RockoftheMarne
Russian can still send ships in Indian ocean including a carrier and what they need is only a small amphibious force.
Don't underestimate russian at this point. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By BlitzGaulAgain Comments: 14236, member since Fri Sep 09, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:50 PM
Its about time that the zeropeans got off of their worthless asses and spearheaded an effort to increase stability somewhere on earth. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By MadRusski Comments: 27186, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004On Wed Nov 19, 2008 03:55 PM
rmada of EU warships
LOL. I haven't heard a thing as fanny as that for a while. Will they rent Russian helicopters for that mission too? |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By EUFinland Comments: 3978, member since Sat Aug 28, 2004On Wed Nov 19, 2008 04:06 PM
I haven't heard a thing as fanny as that for a while. Will they rent Russian helicopters for that mission too?
Nothing to see here! There's no such thing as EU fleet, or EU force, or EU army. Not now, not ever. It was just a bad dream, Russki, go back to sleep!  |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By JeanValette  Comments: 40048, member since Sat Mar 15, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 04:07 PM
Western countries have the firepower at hand to fix the problem, but they do not have the political will. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By FuhkFrenchToads Comments: 1347, member since Thu Sep 01, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:13 PM
Edited by FuhkFrenchToads (77890) on 2008-11-19 17:13:47
Western countries have the firepower at hand to fix the problem, but they do not have the political will.
We don't give a shit what you wankers do. We elected Obama, and now we are concentrated on bringing our troops home and safe. Fuck you. Deal with the world yourselves, assholes. And we don't want to hear shit about how expensive an 11 month mission is. This is what you wanted, this is what you got, this is what you deserve. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By NeoCon Comments: 1595, member since Wed Nov 10, 2004On Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:18 PM
Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates
Translation: Great Britain will be fighting pirates in the Gulf of Arden, while whatever ships the rest of the EU can muster, will sit and watch. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 6)
en>fr fr>en By With_Attitude Comments: 5948, member since Fri Jul 08, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:24 PM
Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates
Just hope they don't pirate ipods, or EU is lost
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re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By abraracoursix Comments: 3242, member since Wed Jan 05, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:27 PM
NeoCon wrote:
Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates
Translation: Great Britain will be fighting pirates in the Gulf of Arden, while whatever ships the rest of the EU can muster, will sit and watch.
FUCKING LOL!!!! |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By PopsFrost Comments: 2837, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008On Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:54 PM
SSaxonsucks wrote:
since french army captured and killed somalians pirate of the Ponan" few months ago... the pirates dont attack french ships anymore..
We notice that the selfish french are only interested in their own economic interest. Of course, they'll tag along in case they can claim credit for somebody elses victory. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By A_Thinking_Man Comments: 15352, member since Fri May 16, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 06:59 PM
Hey Viking Idiot, why didn't you post a picture of an EU armada instead of a US Carrier Battle Group?
If europe tried to put together a CBG comparable to the one in the picture, you'd have to cancel your "free health care" for 500 years.
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re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By Mouse Comments: 7866, member since Wed May 25, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 07:07 PM
A_Thinking_Man wrote:
Hey Viking Idiot, why didn't you post a picture of an EU armada instead of a US Carrier Battle Group?
If europe tried to put together a CBG comparable to the one in the picture, you'd have to cancel your "free health care" for 500 years.

*lol* |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By abraracoursix Comments: 3242, member since Wed Jan 05, 2005On Wed Nov 19, 2008 07:20 PM
A_Thinking_Man wrote:
Hey Viking Idiot, why didn't you post a picture of an EU armada instead of a US Carrier Battle Group?
If europe tried to put together a CBG comparable to the one in the picture, you'd have to cancel your "free health care" for 500 years.
 |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By simplefrench Comments: 54764, member since Wed Mar 19, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 07:31 PM
"We don't give a shit what you wankers do. We elected Obama, and now we are concentrated on bringing our troops home and safe. Fuck you. Deal with the world yourselves, assholes. And we don't want to hear shit about how expensive an 11 month mission is. This is what you wanted, this is what you got, this is what you deserve."
Don't worry. Even if you bring your troops home, you still have military bases everywhere. Funny,a country who believe the world is its garden. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates en>fr fr>en By BurnParis Comments: 20940, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003On Wed Nov 19, 2008 07:37 PM
All ships should be equipped with “sonic cannons” – most cruise ships already are,… for those not familiar with them, they’re devices capable of beaming “bowel-movement-inducing” sound waves in the direction of attacking pirates.
Sounds strange, but it’s VERY effective. |
re: Britain is to lead an armada of EU warships to the Gulf of Aden to tackle pirates (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By PopsFrost Comments: 2837, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008On Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:05 PM
simplefrench wrote:
Even if you bring your troops home, you still have military bases everywhere.
Nobody ever wonders why you're known as 'StupidStink'. |