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en>fr fr>en By Bombs_Away_LeMay   Comments: 11233, member since Mon Jan 06, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:21 PM
Publishers in France have been ordered to modernise school textbooks after they were found to be riddled with racial stereotypes and negative images of the elderly and disabled.
French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes
Telegraph
Publishers in France have been ordered to modernise school textbooks after they were found to be riddled with racial stereotypes and negative images of the elderly and disabled.
By Henry Samuel in Paris
Last Updated: 6:01PM GMT 06 Nov 2008
A study of more than 3,000 illustrations found in 29 of France's most commonly used school books revealed that black people were frequently portrayed as jazz musicians, good sprinters or poor, while children with foreign backgrounds were shown to be inferior academically than their white French peers.
The report by Halde, the state anti-discrimination body, cites an example of a picture of a girl with a "nice French name" getting top marks while her foreign-sounding classmate, Samira, failed the exercise.
In geography and social history textbooks, Africans are consistently shown as "poor and sick" - with the exception of one photograph of a "smiling Maasai herdsman surrounded by his flock while talking on a mobile phone".
The elderly are also depicted as decrepit and penniless, while the disabled and homosexuals are almost completely nonexistent.
Women, often depicted as housewives or secretaries, come across less favourably than men, who were far times more present in illustrations and far more often in positions of professional superiority.
While is ruthlessely politically correct, the report underlines France's struggle to contend with racism and intolerance in a country where gathering official statistics on race and religious beliefs is taboo.
Halde called on editors to update their texts and pictures to reflect modern France, and for the French education system to make it clear that discrimination is an offence. It conceded that improvement had been made in recent years but there was a lack of "counter-examples" - positive images to counter negative ones.
"School books represent society as it was ... but not as it must become, so this reinforces the idea that certain people should occupy certain positions," said Louis Schweitzer, head of Halde. "It's very important if we want change to show that in fact everything is possible for everyone."
President Nicolas Sarkozy has won praise for nominating a "rainbow" government including three high-profile women from ethnic minorities. But there is only black politician in the French National Assembly.
Politicians promised to tackle racial discrimination following the 2005 riots in France's suburban housing estates. Many say these were fuelled by anger against institutionalised racism and the difficulty to get a job if applying with a foreign-sounding name.
Television could play a role, as it has in America, said Mr Schweitzer. "The fact that a very popular American series, 24, showed a black candidate being elected president a few years ago was very important, as it made people think: yes, it's possible," he said.
France's top channel, TF1, put its first ever primetime black news presenter on air only two years ago.
The country is home to five million Muslims, including a large north African population. 47 Replies to French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By idahoboy Comments: 2461, member since Sat Sep 16, 2006On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:24 PM
No surprise, most of our Fnerch members hate Jews. Love the Muzzies and hate the Jews. Real intelligent these Fnerch. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By jeanv Comments: 11835, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:31 PM
KOTR BALM.
Louis Schweitzer is a highly intelligent, but overly self-righteous protestant.
I would admire his work more if the flip side of the coin was enforced = zero tolerance for hooliganism in the name of a right to express one's racial 'difference'  | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Bombs_Away_LeMay   Comments: 11233, member since Mon Jan 06, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:31 PM
France Rethinks Relations With Minorities
Wall Street Journal
By Max Colchester
November 6, 2008
France's self-image as a home of ethnic equality previously suffered a shock when weeks of riots shook Paris's immigrant suburbs in late 2005. With the U.S. -- often criticized in Europe for a troubled history of race relations -- electing its first black president, some French politicians are questioning their own country's prejudices.
"France needs to learn from what is happening with Obama," says Christiane Taubira, a black politician from the French overseas department of French Guiana.
"The U.S population has grown with Obama, they have overcome their prejudices....Such an experience is impossible in France."
An estimated 10% of France's population has African or Arab roots. In an overture to this minority group, President Nicolas Sarkozy last year named three women from African backgrounds to his cabinet. Yet only three of the 36,000 elected mayors in mainland France, and only one lawmaker in the country's National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, are black.
There are no black chief executives at major French companies and no black ambassadors, according to the Conseil Représentatif des Associations Noires, or CRAN, an advocacy group for black people in France.
But the structure of French politics has also slowed the integration of minorities. Unlike in the U.S. presidential primaries, in France veterans of the two main political parties -- rather than voters -- usually choose candidates for France's highest office. Most are graduates of France's elite political schools.
"The hierarchical structure of French politics means that there is no French Obama"
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en>fr fr>en By jeanv Comments: 11835, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:38 PM
Bombs_Away_LeMay wrote:
France Rethinks Relations With Minorities
url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122591006614902049.html?mod=googlenews_wsj]Wall Street
"France needs to learn from what is happening with Obama," says Christiane Taubira, a black politician from the French overseas department of French Guiana.
Taubira is a female Jesse Jackson, only waaay more to the left.
The WSJ quoting anything she has to say as proof of anything?
What next? A WSJ editorial by Rev. Jeremiah Wright?  | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By CroixDeLorraine Comments: 3346, member since Sat Nov 26, 2005On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:39 PM
Edited by CroixDeLorraine (78578) on 2008-11-06 20:43:05
Edited by CroixDeLorraine (78578) on 2008-11-06 20:46:19
Edited by CroixDeLorraine (78578) on 2008-11-06 20:47:28
Edited by CroixDeLorraine (78578) on 2008-11-06 20:50:22
I don't think that obvious facts means racist stereotypes.
BTW I don't care about image of a negro in a french school textbook!
Yet only three of the 36,000 elected mayors in mainland France, and only one lawmaker in the country's National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, are black.
Enought I think.Real black french are only in Caribeans so their vote weight is quite weak.
As those people blacks?
A stereotype or a fact?
Don't see any racism here.
A black dustman is not inferior to a white one.
Just cheaper.
So even superior for the tax payer!
If Africans are allowed to be here and it is their will, it is just to clean our streets or as janitors.Nobody compelled them.
But do you really think that cleaning streets means that we have to grant you french nationality?
Do you think that we would also grant french nationality to a white american just because he would clean our streets and dog poops? | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 5)
en>fr fr>en By WilyB Comments: 19290, member since Sat Apr 26, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:44 PM
In the new House, there is only ONE black republican, so shut the fuck off, assholes. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By Bombs_Away_LeMay   Comments: 11233, member since Mon Jan 06, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:54 PM
jeanv wrote:
KOTR BALM.
Louis Schweitzer is a highly intelligent, but overly self-righteous protestant.
I would admire his work more if the flip side of the coin was enforced = zero tolerance for hooliganism in the name of a right to express one's racial 'difference' 
To be fair, Jean, the frogs are very fair minded about black folks-they think everyone should own one
To your point, what's REALLY stupid is the PC "sensitivity crap that has litterally set back a generation of progress on the matter. To me the P.C. sensitivity nazis, founding members of the race relations industry, are far, far worse than racists. I hate those idiotic and dangerous scumbags. There is no doubt whatsoever that they are doing terrible damage to society. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By Bombs_Away_LeMay   Comments: 11233, member since Mon Jan 06, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 08:58 PM
jeanv wrote:
Taubira is a female Jesse Jackson, only waaay more to the left.
I realize that, Jean. That fact also has very little to do with how quailfied, or not, she is to with respect to addressing "race relations".
Which reminds me, "race relations" is a really fucked up term. Aren't we all part of one race-the human race? | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By starspangled Comments: 23013, member since Sat Dec 27, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:05 PM
Edited by starspangled (73817) on 2008-11-06 21:06:47
If they're working and paying taxes then they should have representation.
The 'issue' shouldn't be about their race or religion.
Just get it over with already.
And keep it simple. Don't let them take control. This is about their rights of citizenship and govt. representation in their local areas (business/jobs, etc..) | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By WilyB Comments: 19290, member since Sat Apr 26, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:06 PM
Bombs_Away_LeMay wrote:
Aren't we all part of one race-the human race?
We, yes, but not you LeTurd. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By CroixDeLorraine Comments: 3346, member since Sat Nov 26, 2005On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:08 PM
If they're working and paying taxes then they should have representation.
Do you think that when I work in USA and paying taxes (or Israel or Saudia Arabia) I deserve any representation?
A nation is an extended family. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By starspangled Comments: 23013, member since Sat Dec 27, 2003On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:17 PM
Do you think that when I work in USA and paying taxes (or Israel or Saudia Arabia) I deserve any representation?
A nation is an extended family.
But many of those people (in your country) are french citizens.
Walk in their shoes for a day. They come from shitty places with crappy cultures. But they don't fit in.
Will they melt in if given the opportunity?
Close your eyes. Be colorblind. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By ibigmang  Comments: 11140, member since Thu Oct 06, 2005On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:21 PM
WilyB wrote:
In the new House, there is only ONE black republican, so shut the fuck off, assholes.
You seem upset... | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 4)
en>fr fr>en By TheCaledonian  Comments: 10329, member since Fri Feb 24, 2006On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:22 PM
Absolutely no surprise to me. Considering the French can't even teach history correctly, their record on all other subjects is hardly likely to be shining.
Remember, my son was reprimanded in a French school for writing that "Germany occupied France in WWII" (according to the system, the point is that only part of France was occupied) and he was also "taught" that "France helped Britain (sic) out during WWII".
The French are deluded fools. Look at the examples here on FF, and ask yourself this: why do whizz and a couple of others stand out? Because they're the most intelligent/least French. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By TheCaledonian  Comments: 10329, member since Fri Feb 24, 2006On Thu Nov 06, 2008 09:30 PM
Where's the moron to bullshit about how sophisticated and worldy France is?
ROFLMKSAO | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 3)
en>fr fr>en By PopsFrost Comments: 2672, member since Mon Jan 21, 2008On Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:40 PM
Some stereotypes are true. For instance, french men are pansies and french women look forward to getting raped by invading armies. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 2)
en>fr fr>en By jeanv Comments: 11835, member since Sun Sep 11, 2005On Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:54 AM
PopsFrost wrote:
Some stereotypes are true. For instance, french men are pansies and french women look forward to getting raped by invading armies.
Off your meds yet again? | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Atlantic  Comments: 32157, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004On Fri Nov 07, 2008 01:42 AM
Well, at least Obama already has his ticket for history school-books around the world, when Bush's last chance to make it is if History remembers hims as the US' worst president ever, which is likely. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By Chabal2U Comments: 825, member since Thu Jan 24, 2008On Fri Nov 07, 2008 02:02 AM
Remember, my son was reprimanded in a French school for writing that "Germany occupied France in WWII"
Hi shityscoty. This is the third time you give us the same crap story about your son. Nobody cares about your family.
But you have to realize your son will have a much better all around education in France than in your poor shity rocky country.
So thanks God to live in LOvely France or fuckoff. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By Chabal2U Comments: 825, member since Thu Jan 24, 2008On Fri Nov 07, 2008 02:09 AM
Obama is an American, the gu you show above is most probably an illegal or e has faked resident document.
Obama went to Harvard, there is a big difference.
No matter how long our blacks have been staying in France, they always say "we defend our identity, we are being oppressed by the french society, they must give us more".
Never, ever you hear them saying (like Obama did): "We are French above all, we must all work united, we must kick our ass and not blame the others in order to get a better life". | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By Chabal2U Comments: 825, member since Thu Jan 24, 2008On Fri Nov 07, 2008 02:22 AM
when Bush's last chance to make it is if History remembers hims as the US' worst president ever, which is likely.
I think it is too easy to blame everything on Bush.
For sure, he took some wrong decisions (in fact he had a lot of bad advisers around him). But this guy did what he taught was best for America, not for himself. America is not Butan, Luxemburg, France or even UK.
Except for Pearl Harbour which lead to the USA going to war against Japan, no other President had to endure the burden of 9/11.
Just ask yourself what Clinton would have done, what Obama would do.
Imagine London or Paris being destroyed like NY, what the people would have say ? and would have been willing to do ?
Note: I know UK would have responded very aggressively, I know Sarkosy would have done the same, I also know Mitterrand would have hide under thousands of reason not to act and may be blame the USA about it. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By WilyB Comments: 19290, member since Sat Apr 26, 2003On Fri Nov 07, 2008 05:41 AM
ibigmang wrote:
You seem upset...
No, personally I am color blind. Just look at my profile: I even have a skirt wearing Pic on my buddy list!
As posted by RC, Letarsier and others yesterday, there have been many blacks and Jews in position of power in France over the past centuries. They reached that position on their merit, not on the color of their skin or their lack of foreskin, and this is the way it should be.
The massive arrival of black people in metropolitan France is a very recent event. It started well after the end of the French Empire, that is in the late 50s, early 60s, and it increased in the past ten years.
Most of them today are either too young or too uneducated (mostly due to peer pressure etc.) to warrant a post of responsibility, be it in government or in the industry.
Add to that fact that politicians elected to the French Parliament are usually locals of each district. Carpet baggers are usually not welcome, unless they are perceived to be in a position to bring a lot to the community.
Here, we have a few blacks Representatives (1 Republican, or 0.5% of the Republicans in the House) due to the most anti-democratic electoral system perversion possible: gerrymandering. | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes en>fr fr>en By Meechie92 Comments: 8225, member since Thu Nov 03, 2005On Fri Nov 07, 2008 07:56 AM
Edited by Meechie92 (78286) on 2008-11-07 07:57:00
Well, at least Obama already has his ticket for history school-books around the world, when Bush's last chance to make it is if History remembers hims as the US' worst president ever, which is likely.
When is France going to elect a black or asian president? You seem to be stuck on color ...so when are you going to put your money where your mouth is? | re: French schoolbooks riddled with racist stereotypes (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By faqufrance Comments: 2973, member since Wed Nov 17, 2004On Fri Nov 07, 2008 08:10 AM
Edited by faqufrance (75517) on 2008-11-07 08:14:43
My hat is off to Bombs on this find... this is one of the most significant articles posted on the trecherous french..
A study of more than 3,000 illustrations found in 29 of France's most commonly used school books revealed that black people were frequently portrayed as jazz musicians, good sprinters or poor, while children with foreign backgrounds were shown to be inferior academically than their white French peers.
The brain washing feeds the arrogance that we continue to deal with on a daily basis.
This is an all new low for the french,but on a daily,you stinks break out the shovels and dig for yet a new record low..
This article NEEDS to be a sticky |
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