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For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Atlanticmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 31776, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 04:32 PM
Edited by Atlantic (74001) on 2008-09-29 16:35:04

John McCain's campaign is in crisis. The Republican presidential candidate must quickly reverse recent sharp declines and recapture the momentum in this election race if he is to avoid falling fatally far behind Barack Obama, his Democratic opponent.

Provided the 12-figure rescue package agreed to over the weekend makes it through the House of Representatives and the Senate, and quickly, the financial emergency may recede a bit as the overriding issue of this election campaign, although it will never be far from voters' minds.

Wall Street's distress poses an existential (this election's favourite buzzword) threat to Mr. McCain's campaign. Six of seven opinion polls, all conducted last week, put Mr. Obama at least five percentage points ahead of Mr. McCain (though one poll, GW/Battleground Tracking, had Mr. McCain ahead by two points).

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The most recent survey, by Gallup Tracking, has Mr. Obama eight points up. And while many pundits, including this one, thought Mr. McCain outperformed Mr. Obama during the foreign-policy part of Friday night's televised debate, viewers disagreed.



Three separate snap polls - by CBS, CNN/Opinion Research and USA Today/Gallup - confirmed that it was actually Mr. Obama's night.

In the USA Today/Gallup survey, for example, 46 per cent of those polled thought Mr. Obama had outperformed Mr. McCain, while 34 per cent thought the opposite.

Fifty-two per cent picked Mr. Obama, when they were asked which candidate offered the best proposals for change to solve the country's problems. Thirty-five per cent picked Mr. McCain.

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Two things seem to be at work. First, the economy - which was always the No. 1 issue in this campaign - has become elephantine in proportion.

And secondly, Mr. McCain, who has always been vulnerable on this issue, did himself no good last week by suspending his campaign and flying to Washington, only to un-suspend it so that he could fly to Mississippi for Friday's debate.

In many respects, national opinion polls are meaningless, because the election will be decided in a dozen or so key battleground states. Mr. Obama was in one of them, Michigan, yesterday, while Mr. McCain travelled to another, Ohio.

But the polls tell a tale there, too.

In battleground states that went Republican in the 2004 vote, either Mr. McCain is ahead by the narrowest of margins (1.2 percentage points in Ohio, according to the RealClearPolitics aggregate; 1.6 in Florida; 1.7 in Nevada) or he is behind. Mr. Obama has an aggregate lead of nine percentage points in Iowa, six in New Mexico; 5.4 in Colorado and 1.8 in Virginia.

Mr. McCain isn't leading Mr. Obama in any battleground state that went Democratic in 2004. His campaign, in other words, has become entirely defensive.

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Then there is the Palin Effect. It's a whole new effect.


Mr. McCain's choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate galvanized the social conservative base of the Republican Party, and intrigued many women still disappointed that Hillary Clinton was not on the Democratic ticket.

Surveys after the Republican convention had Mr. McCain either tied with Mr. Obama or in the lead, with less-educated white female voters, who tend to trend Democratic, moving heavily in favour of Mr. McCain.

More recent polls show that gap narrowing, and women overall preferring Mr. Obama to Mr. McCain.

And Ms. Palin dulled some of her lustre last week when her answers in an interview with CBS anchor Katie Couric were, at times, so incoherent that comedian Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live simply cribbed them in her mocking sketch.

This Thursday, Ms. Palin will join Democratic vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden in a televised debate. Mr. Biden is gaffe-prone himself. Last week, for example, he told Ms. Couric: "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.' " Except that when the stock market crashed in 1929, Herbert Hoover was president and people didn't have televisions.

Still, Mr. Biden has decades of experience in the Senate and Ms. Palin is consistently demonstrating an inability to answer journalists' questions. It will be an interesting night.

For the Republicans, all may not be lost. The arch-conservative Washington Times reported yesterday that "inside John McCain's campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby."

The Times quoted one "McCain insider" as saying: "It would be fantastic ... You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week."

No, it wouldn't.

Five weeks is five weeks in politics. Conspiracy theorists believe the Republicans are sitting on an "October surprise" - some incredibly damning bit of information from Mr. Obama's past that GOP strategists are keeping under wraps until the final weeks of the campaign.

Even if no such surprise exists, the Republicans might try to manufacture one, perhaps by dredging up some new detail about Mr. Obama's connections to William Ayers, the former extremist leader of the Weather Underground who is now a university professor.

And in an election that has been dominated by extremes of meteorological, financial and political turbulence, anything is possible in the month-and-a-bit to come.

But this past week, for the first time, it became clear that one candidate is clearly ahead in this race and another dangerously far behind. Mr. McCain has 36 days to catch up.


www.theglobeandmail.com . . .

61 Replies to For the first time, there is a clear front-runner

re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By frederickPremium member Comments: 17886, member since Mon Mar 14, 2005
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 04:38 PM
Are you happy, Atlantic?
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By CaptBHLiddelHart Comments: 1852, member since Tue Sep 19, 2006
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 04:40 PM
Edited by CaptBHLiddelHart (79944) on 2008-09-29 16:42:30
Yes , he is thrilled.



He lives in Paris and yet he is posting here @ 11.40p.m? No bars or Whores to interest you?
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By TheCaledonianPremium member Comments: 10199, member since Fri Feb 24, 2006
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:28 PM
CaptBHLiddelHart wrote:

Yes , he is thrilled.



He lives in Paris and yet he is posting here @ 11.40p.m? No bars or Whores to interest you?
The moron's an arsehole. He lives in fantasyland. We should not mock the French, we should pity them.

ROFLMKSAO, my arse indeed.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By BigDaddyCruzmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 17251, member since Mon Mar 10, 2003
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:35 PM
I just can't wait till the fucking election is over and this site becomes a french bashing site again.

Fuck france!!!
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By Atlanticmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 31776, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:37 PM
Yes , he is thrilled.

He lives in Paris and yet he is posting here @ 11.40p.m? No bars or Whores to interest you?

I'm not thrilled, yet.
I already said I will not feel relaxed until Obama has a 10 points lead.
I'm afraid too many voters say they intend to vote Obama to pollsters, and in the end will not be able to vote for a half-black man once in the privacy of the voting booth.
But yes, it's not turning so bad.

And the whores-bar opens at 12. :D
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Atlanticmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 31776, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:39 PM
I just can't wait till the fucking election is over and this site becomes a french bashing site again.

Give it up, Big-Foot, French-bashing is out of fashion.
You'll have to move to Britain where French-bashing never dies.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By OldLyme Comments: 26144, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:43 PM
Atlantic was silent when McCain pulled ahead
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 4)  en>fr fr>en
By frederickPremium member Comments: 17886, member since Mon Mar 14, 2005
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:44 PM
Atlantic,

Me and my white, male friends are not voting for Obama because of his policies, not the color of his skin. I deeply resent you, a foreigner, presuming to know my friends and I better than we know ourselves and how our fellow black Americans know us (and all of us have integrated work places and neighborhoods).

Europe will not benefit from an Obama presidency. When Iranian nukes rain down on Israel and Western Europe, you'll regret his presidency, because he's vowed to end the ballistic missile shield program. You people are idiots.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BigDaddyCruzmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 17251, member since Mon Mar 10, 2003
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:49 PM
Atlantic wrote:

Give it up, Big-Foot, French-bashing is out of fashion.
You'll have to move to Britain where French-bashing never dies.
Not really little man. It's just that france is a tiny and insignificant. So in all honesty you just don't always have stuff to post about.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By bratwurst1978member has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 1936, member since Tue Nov 30, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 05:55 PM
frederick wrote:

When Iranian nukes rain down on Israel and Western Europe, you'll regret his presidency, because he's vowed to end the ballistic missile shield program. You people are idiots.


Gosh. How poetic (or prophetic rather) frederick can becomes when he fantasizes about the annihilation of Europe.

Not gonna happen, sorry... - now back to "deeply resenting" Europeans for having such awful preconceptions.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By achilledetroie Comments: 4942, member since Mon Apr 17, 2006
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 06:29 PM
Take care of your aSS MORON.
We could have a good laugh in November
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By Michelus Comments: 1386, member since Fri Mar 02, 2007
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 06:54 PM
frederick wrote:

Atlantic,
Europe will not benefit from an Obama presidency. When Iranian nukes rain down on Israel and Western Europe, you'll regret his presidency, because he's vowed to end the ballistic missile shield program. You people are idiots.


Come on Fred, is extremely unlikely such thing will happen, unless you want the planet to be destroyed (subconsciously).

Fact is Obama is a better interlocutor, most world leaders would rather talk to him since he's popular (image is important). McCain is worse, he's senile and a bad speaker, he would create more problems around the world like Bush did. McCain has a negative approach, he would create a lot of rejection across the world. So is better for your country and international relations if Obama wins, otherwise the US will be considered a racist country (fairly or not) since some surveys show Obama's race is an issue for many voters, like it or not, just the way it is.

I understand if you don't like Obama, but maybe not voting at all is a better option, since both parties are practically "socialists" now. :)
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By OldLyme Comments: 26144, member since Fri Jun 04, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 06:55 PM
Edited by OldLyme (74502) on 2008-09-29 18:59:16
Not really little man. It's just that france is a tiny and insignificant.


It is true.

simple_french prefaces many of his posts with the desclaimer about France.

Small and impotent.

Sad.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By MadRusski Comments: 26318, member since Mon Aug 16, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 07:03 PM
Fact is Obama is a better interlocutor, most world leaders would rather talk to him since he's popular (image is important). McCain is worse, he's senile and a bad speaker,


For degenerate eurofags, talks is everything, substance and actions are noting. Hitler was such an orator!



Cretin
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 20703, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 07:04 PM
Edited by BurnParis (59538) on 2008-09-29 19:08:31
I understand if you don't like Obama, but maybe not voting at all is a better option,


I would sooner kill you, your family, and anyone that reminded me of you and your family before voting for this communist nigger, or giving up my right to vote.

Fuck you and DIE
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By ymifrench Comments: 8760, member since Fri Oct 08, 2004
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 07:13 PM
He lives in Paris and yet he is posting here @ 11.40p.m? No bars or Whores to interest you?

. . . . The boys he trolls for are in bed due to their curfew by then.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By frederickPremium member Comments: 17886, member since Mon Mar 14, 2005
On Mon Sep 29, 2008 07:32 PM
Fact is Obama is a better interlocutor, most world leaders would rather talk to him since he's popular (image is important)


I can't wait to see his charm offensive of diplomatic nicey-nice with the Iranian president. This one's gonna be good.

And he did, many times, tell Leftist groups that when he's president of the United States the missile defense shield is gonzo.

Fools and tools, the lot of you. What a waste of valuable human lives to liberate Europe in WWII. I hope we don't come back to do it again when the Muzz take over. If the French nukes fall into the Muzz hands, we'll just nuke France.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Atlanticmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 31776, member since Fri Feb 20, 2004
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 01:31 AM
I deeply resent you, a foreigner, presuming to know my friends and I better than we know ourselves.

Did I ever say that no American white male would vote for Obama?
Did I ever say that all American white male McCain voters reject Obama for the color of his skin?

What I say is just that there are still enough shameful-racists left for Obama votes intention to be slightly over-evaluated in the polls, which is why I want to see him with a solid 10 points lead in the polls.

If you resent reading it from a foreigner, you can read it from a fellow compatriot, here for instance:
newsblogs.chicagotribune.com . . .

Europe will not benefit from an Obama presidency. When Iranian nukes rain down on Israel and Western Europe, you'll regret his presidency

What did the Republicans do against Wilhelm II, what did they do against Hitler?
I deeply resent, as a European whose continent has been rescued twice in the last century by American Democratic administrations, that you would think the Republicans more qualified to defend our common values.
Actually, I'm convinced that nothing like Bush' policy in the middle-east and the war on Iraq could have made Iran stronger than what it is today.

Come on, conservatives also said Kennedy would start WWIII, he didn't. You like to manipulate people with their fears, that's how Bush got re-elected in 2004. You'll have to find something else for us Europeans.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By Fredmassemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 29507, member since Wed Jan 12, 2005
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 01:39 AM
Obama is the president...

The crisis killed Mc Cain and the republicans...


RIP!
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By FrenchDoSmell Comments: 1228, member since Fri Mar 21, 2003
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 01:52 AM
Hofstra poll: McCain leads suburban vote

BY KARLA SCHUSTER | karla.schuster@newsday.com
12:16 PM EDT, September 29, 2008

Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain holds a slight edge over Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama among suburban voters, according to a new poll sponsored by Hofstra University to be released Monday.

The nationwide poll, conducted for Hofstra's National Center for Suburban Studies, found that 48 percent of suburban voters said they support McCain, compared to 42 percent for Obama.

By comparison, the poll found that McCain leads Obama among rural voters, 51 percent to 35 percent, while Obama is ahead in urban areas, 57 percent to 34 percent.

The results of the poll are scheduled to be released at 1 p.m. Monday at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.




"Suburban voters have decided victors in not only the last five presidential contests, but control of Congress and state houses," said Lawrence Levy, director of the National Center for Suburban Studies.

The poll also revealed a significant gender gap in McCain's support among suburban voters -- suburban men favor him over Obama by a margin of 51 percent to 40 percent, while suburban women are evenly split, with both men drawing 45 percent.

The telephone survey of 1,033 suburban residents and 493 urban and rural residents was conducted from Sept. 15-21. The total margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points; for suburban residents it was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Regardless of geographic area, all those surveyed ranked the economy as the issue they want to hear candidates talk about more than any other. Almost half of suburban voters -- 46 percent -- said it was their No. 1 concern, compared to just 9 percent who ranked the war in Iraq that way.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By SuperBoss Comments: 1303, member since Tue May 13, 2008
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 05:38 AM
frederick wrote:

Are you happy, Atlantic?


Why not? It's good news.

Mc Cain gained some points right after the Palin trick, now, a couple of weeks after, they realised that she does not have much in her brain, just good for hunting some stuff in Alaska!

Americans need more than that if they want to have a chance to get out this mess!
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Fredmassemember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 29507, member since Wed Jan 12, 2005
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 05:41 AM
The republican party is a bit pale in!
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By Padania Comments: 25400, member since Sat Sep 11, 2004
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 05:52 AM
I imagine Atlantic's cheap life: he is "googleing" around all days looking for negative articles about America and in particular about the Republicans. When he finds something he has an automatic orgasm since he can't control it. I don't want to think at the color of his chair.. and less than less at his underwears that (being him french) he changes once per week.
re: For the first time, there is a clear front-runner en>fr fr>en
By SuperBoss Comments: 1303, member since Tue May 13, 2008
On Tue Sep 30, 2008 06:03 AM
Padania wrote:

.."googleing" around all days looking for negative articles about America and in particular about the Republicans. ...


That's easy... these days we don't need to spen much time for that!
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